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Francisco seems to have picked very recent or current versions of
everything which to me indicates he's serious about bringing Arthur's code
forward.
As Bruce points out, unless he has already gone to serious lengths to
somehow overhaul the code, it's likely to also run in a 2.7 environment
with this change to make it forward compatible:
from __future__ import division, print_function
My guess is getting Python 3.2 + Visual 5.74 working smoothly *before*
trying to run Arthur's program with those tools would be a good strategy
i.e. make sure the demos work and that you have a working Vpython
environment.
Then add Arthur's code as a package under site-packages (but I forget if it
was really that simple an architecture -- I'm pretty sure it was).
Another group you might post to about this work is edu-***@python.org --
that's where Arthur himself used to do a lot of posting, his writings
easily findable in the archive.
I'd say Arthur's passion was projective geometry more than Python / VPython
per se. He looked long and hard for the tools that would enable him to
express his vision and Python / VPython was what came closest, but he was
always critical of what he perceived as shortcomings.
I see Arthur as a pioneer, going deeply into a synergy (projective geometry
+ computer programming) that relatively few have explored to date, since
both are specialized subjects and one tends to be strong in either one or
the other.
Given he was an amateur with a background in finance, I think Arthur's
being relatively "weak" in both, compared to an expert in either, is what
enabled him to take it as far as he did. He grew strong in a new way. A
trailblazer.
Kirby
Some of you may remember Pygeo, the project started by the late Arthur
Siegel
and orphaned after his untimely passing. A guy in Spain, Francisco Gracia,
is
taking a stab at updating the project, and I'm attempting to help. He put
together
an alpha version of his first effort, and he's sent me a copy. In order
for me to
even try to look at it properly, I'll need to have the same environment on
my
computer that he used to construct his upgrade.
Here's where it gets interesting. He emailed me these specs: Python 3.3.2,
Numpy 1.7.1, and visual 5.72. Needless to say, this doesn't exactly match
what's
currently available for download. The closest thing I've found is Python
3.3 with
VPython 5.74. I don't have the foggiest about the Numpy version involved.
If that's the best I can get, I could certainly give it a whirl; however,
given the
shakiness of the whole situation, I'd definitely rather not bring in even
small
incompatibilitiesif I can help it.
I encourage any ideas, comments, suggestions, info, &c that anyone wants to
toss in. If somebody desires to join the Pygeo effort, I'll certainly
welcome it--
especially if you're better qualified, which I'm sure many of you would be.
Maybe a class project for ambitious students?
Thanks in advance for help.
Joel
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<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Francisco seems to have picked very recent or current versions of everything which to me indicates he's serious about bringing Arthur's code forward. <div><br></div><div>As Bruce points out, unless he has already gone to serious lengths to somehow overhaul the code, it's likely to also run in a 2.7 environment with this change to make it forward compatible:<div>
<br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">from __future__ import division, print_function</span></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">My guess is getting Python 3.2 + Visual 5.74 working smoothly *before* trying to run Arthur's program with those tools would be a good strategy i.e. make sure the demos work and that you have a working Vpython environment.</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Then add Arthur's code as a package under site-packages (but I forget if it was really that simple an architecture -- I'm pretty sure it was).</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Another group you might post to about this work is <a href="mailto:edu-***@python.org">edu-***@python.org</a> -- that's where Arthur himself used to do a lot of posting, his writings easily findable in the archive.</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif">I'd say Arthur's passion was projective geometry more than Python / VPython per se. He looked long and hard for the tools that would enable him to express his vision and Python / VPython was what came closest, but he was always critical of what he perceived as shortcomings.</font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif">I see Arthur as a pioneer, going deeply into a synergy (projective geometry + computer programming) that relatively few have explored to date, since both are specialized subjects and one tends to be strong in either one or the other. </font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif">Given he was an amateur with a background in finance, I think Arthur's being relatively "weak" in both, compared to an expert in either, is what enabled him to take it as far as he did. He grew strong in a new way. A trailblazer.</font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif">Kirby</font></div><div style><br></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Joel Kahn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:***@yahoo.com" target="_blank">***@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
Some of you may remember Pygeo, the project started by the late Arthur Siegel<br>
and orphaned after his untimely passing. A guy in Spain, Francisco Gracia, is<br>
taking a stab at updating the project, and I'm attempting to help. He put together<br>
an alpha version of his first effort, and he's sent me a copy. In order for me to<br>
even try to look at it properly, I'll need to have the same environment on my<br>
computer that he used to construct his upgrade.<br>
<br>
Here's where it gets interesting. He emailed me these specs: Python 3.3.2,<br>
Numpy 1.7.1, and visual 5.72. Needless to say, this doesn't exactly match what's<br>
currently available for download. The closest thing I've found is Python 3.3 with<br>
VPython 5.74. I don't have the foggiest about the Numpy version involved.<br>
If that's the best I can get, I could certainly give it a whirl; however, given the<br>
shakiness of the whole situation, I'd definitely rather not bring in even small<br>
incompatibilitiesif I can help it.<br>
<br>
<br>
I encourage any ideas, comments, suggestions, info, &c that anyone wants to<br>
toss in. If somebody desires to join the Pygeo effort, I'll certainly welcome it--<br>
especially if you're better qualified, which I'm sure many of you would be.<br>
Maybe a class project for ambitious students?<br>
<br>
<br>
If you'd like to contact Francisco Gracia directly, here's his address:<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:***@gmail.com">***@gmail.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for help.<br>
<br>
Joel<br>
<br>
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